>> is president obama making the case for possible impeachment? >> he's already abused the law enough. >> all options should be on the table. >> if you try to take our firearms. >> going to spark a civil war and i'll be glad to fire the first shot. >> let's bring in msnbc political analyst karen finney and msnbc contributor jimmy williams. jimmy, has the reaction to gun violence opened up a debate in this country that really does expose regional divides which go back almost to its founding? >> i think i'm going to push back just a little bit on this and the reason i'm going to do that -- >> feel free. >> because you have two southerners that are going to -- that are on your panel right now. the idea of push back on guns or weapons, if you will, isn't a regional issue. if you ask people in the upper panhandle of wisconsin or in michigan, i think you would find just as much, quote, cling to their guns as you would in greenville, south carolina. there is virtually no difference. go to idaho, same thing. it's not that the people in the south cling to